1965 – Spring Nationals and World Finals comes alive!!

 

1965    
   
WINTER NATIONALS
 Factory Stock Eliminator (FX Class)  Bill Lawton

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Len Richter – 65 Mustang – 427cui/425hp 2x4V FE HiRiser – (Bob Ford motors) – Pegasus –  (728) – Broken Axle

 65 Mustang – Tasca Ford (777)

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 427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC  10.92 @ 128.20
Top Stock Eliminator Bill Jenkins

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Dick Housey Plymouth Belvedere  RO1 A990 – 426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram – (S/SA) (Downriver Chrysler) (794)

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65 Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 Post – Black Arrow (S/SA)(666)

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426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi 11.29 @ 126.05
 A/FX  Bill Lawton  Len Richter – 65 Mustang Fastback  – 427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC in-line – (Bob Ford) – Pegasus (728)

 65 Mustang Fastback  – (Tasca Ford )(777)

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427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC – in-line 10.88@ 130.58 
 B/FX Jerry Harvey

 

Darrell Droke – 65 Fairlane – Thunderbolt – FE 427cui/425hp 2x4V hi-riser – (703)

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 65 Galaxy Hardtop lightweight  – The Quiet One –  (790)

427cui/425hp FE 2x4V hi riser in-line

 11.78 @ 119.68
 C/FX Bill Hoefer  Unopposed 65 Ford Galaxy Hardtop  – (Hoefer Brothers) – (663)

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289cui/275hp quad Weber  13.58 @ 105
Super stock S/S Bill Andress

 

Time qualifier 65 Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 – Mad Moose – (652)

426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi  
Super Stock S/SA Bill Jenkins

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Time qualifier 65 Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 – Black Arrow- (666)

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426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi  11.39
Stock AA/S Mike Schmitt/Doug Butler?

(Solo run – see driver notes)  65 Ford Galaxie Hardtop -(Desert Motors)–  (796)

427cui/425hp 2x4V medium riser in-line 12.77 @ 114.21
 AA/SA Bill Hanyon   64 Ford Galaxie lightweight – (Expressway Ford) – (831)

427cui/425hp 2x4V hi riser in-line 12.24 @ 114.95
A/S Leroy (Jr.) Stutzman

DQ

   62 Pontiac  Catalina lightweight – Mr Pontiac – (731)  421cui/405hp 2x4V Super Duty DQ

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12.82 @ 112.58

A/SA Ron Mandella  63 Plymouth wagon – Mandella Equipment – (773)

426cui/415hp 2x4V Lo Comp crossram Max Wedge Stge 2 13.39@ 107.65 
 Jr Stock Eliminator  Dave Kempton

 Jerry Young – 61 Pontiac Catalina  – 389cui/235hp 2V – (Hunt & Young)(I/SA) (621)

 62 Plymouth Fury – Shaker – (C/SA) – (644)

 

361 cui/305hp 4V  13.64 @ 101.23
SPRING NATIONALS

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Top Stock Eliminator Mike Schmitt Robert Borkes  – 64 Galaxie lightweight – 427 cui 2x4V hi Riser –  (AA/S) (704)

64 Ford Galaxy Lightweight – Lil Red’s Brother (AA/S) (815)

427cui/425hp 2x4V hi riser 12.32@ 117.18
A/FX  Don Nicholson  Dick Brannan – 65 Ford Mustang fastback – 427 SOHC – Goldfinger – (690)

65 Mercury Comet – (800)

427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC  10.87 @ 129.12
 B/FX  Jerry Harvey

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   65 Galaxy – The Quiet One –

427cui/425hp SOHC 2x4V in-line 11.70 @ 121.13mph 
 C/FX  Bill Hoefer

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   65 Galaxy – (Hoefer Brothers)– (663)

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289cui/275hp quad Weber 13.60 @ 97.93mph 
 S/S  Bill Andress

 DQ

Ron Sox – 426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi – Paper Tiger
65 Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 – Mad Moose – (876)

426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi  11.84 @ 119.48

DQ’d  (Illegal ballast)

 S/SA Joe Smith

DQ

  65 Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 (Fenner Tubbs)  (793)

426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi – 11.63 @ 126.40 DQ’d  (Illegal ballast)
 AA/S John Ulrey  

 

– 64 Ford Galaxy lightweight -(Ulrey Bros) – Lightning Bolt  – (875)

427cui/425hp 2x4V hi riser in-line  12.58 @ 116.58
 AA/SA  Mike Schmitt Ray Christian – 63 Dodge 330 (Ex -Ramchargers) – 426/425hp Maxwedge Crossram- (Christian Auto Services

 

 64 Ford Galaxy lightweight (Desert Motors)-  Lil Red’s Brother – (815)

427cui/425hp 2x4V hi riser in-line  12.43 @ 117.18
A/S Tony Pizzi 

DQ

 

  62 Chevrolet BelAir – The Fugitive – (855)

 

409cui/409hp 2x4V in-line 12.51 @ 112.64

DQ’d (Gutted mufflers)

A/SA Tom Crutchfield  63 Dodge Wagon 6 passenger – (Button Motors) – Little White Wagon (773)

 426cui/415hp Maxwedge lo-comp 2x4V cross ram 13.79 @ 105.26 
Jr Stock Eliminator Bill Hoefer Fred Hines/Doug Patterson – 65 Barracuda 273cui/235hp 4V – Brand X Eliminator – (F/SA) (723)

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65 Galaxie Hardtop – (Hoefer Bros) – (C/FX) (663)

289cui/275hp quad Weber 14.08 & 84.98
INDY NATIONALS          
Top Stock Eliminator Bud Shellenberger

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Bob Coble – 64 Ford Galaxie lightweight – 427cui/425hp 2x4V in-line hi riser – (Coble & Bolland) (AA/S) (821)

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64 Ford Galaxie lightweight – Moby Dick – (AA/S)  (1090)

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427cui/425hp 2x4V in-line hi riser

12.16 @ 114.21
 A/FX  Les Ritchey  Gas Ronda – 65 Mustang fastback-  427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC (Davis Ford)- (640)

65 Mustang fastback  – (667)

427cui/425hp 2x4V  SOHC quad Weber   10.67 @ 131.96 
 B/FX  Darrell Droke

DQ’d

 Fred Cutler – 65 Dodge – 426/383cui Hemi 2x4V crossram destroked – Roadrunner –  (721)

 65 Fairlane – Thunderbolt – (703) 

427cui/425hp FE 2x4V in-line hi riser

DQ Both cars outed

11.43

 

 C/FX Dave Koffel

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Bye run  65 Plymouth Belvedere – (Maloney Motors) –  (917)

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273cui/235hp  quad Weber   13.93 @ 100.89
Super Stock S/S Butch Leal

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Dave Strickler Dodge Coronet WO1 A990 426cui/425hp crossram Race Hemi – Dodge Boys– (602)

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Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 – California Flash (S&M prepped) – (707)

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426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi 11.56 @ 124.82
Super Stock Auto S/SA Bob Harrop Jack Werst – Plymouth Belvedere RO1 A990 426cui/425hp crossram Race Hemi – Mr 5 & 50 – (655)

65 Dodge Coronet WO1 A990- Harrops Flying Carpet – (1081)

426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi 11.39 @ 126.05
Stock AA/S Don Grotheer

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Bud. Shellenberger  – 64 Galaxie 427cui/425hp 2x4V in-line hi riser – Moby Dick – (1090) –

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63 Plymouth Savoy – (662)

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426cui/425hp 2x4V Max Wedge Stge 2 Hi Comp crossram 12.19 @ 118.26
Stock AA/SA Ray Christian

 DQ’d

Dick Charbonneau – 63 Plymouth – 426cui/425hp Maxwedge 2x4V crossram Hi Comp   

63 Plymouth 2dr sed. – (Goldenrod)

426cui/425hp Maxwedge 2x4V crossram Hi  Comp 12.10

DQ Both cars outed

A/S Leroy (Jr.) Stutzman Rich Lorenze – 63 Galaxie- 427cui /425hp 2x4V  lo-riser

 62 Pontiac Catalina – Mr Pontiac 421cui/405hp 2x4V Super Duty 13.01 @ 109.89
A/SA Bob Taylor Tom Crutchfield – 63 Plymouth Wagon  x 426/415hp 4V crossram Maxwedge Lo comp – (Button Motors) 63 Plymouth – Old Whitey

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426cui/415hp 2x4V crossram Max Wedge Stge 2 Lo comp  12.72 @ 110.97
Jr Stock Elim John Callender6BDBAC54-5B96-481C-9DE8-090876CD9C7C Bill Spanakos – 55 Chev 265cui /195hp Monster Mash II – (I/S) – (699)

 59 Chevrolet Biscayne – (Chevair Race Team) – (K/S) – (693)

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283cui/185Hp 2V  15.29 @ 88.26
WORLD FINALS    
Top Stock Eliminator

 

Joe Smith Bill Lawton – Mustang 427cui/425hp 2x4V SOHC – (Tasca Ford– 

Red light

 65 Plymouth RO1 A990 (Fenner-Tubbs) (798)

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426cui/425hp 2x4V crossram Race Hemi 11.23
Jr Stock Eliminator Doug Kahl

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Bill Spanakos – 55 Chev 265cui/180hp – Monster Mash II – (699) – (J/S)

 62 Plymouth Fury – (C/SA) – (906)

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361cui/305hp 4V  13.48 @ 99.88
   
   

1965 WINTER NATIONALS RESULTS

1965 WINTER NATIONALS RESULTS – Alternative results

WINTERNATIONALS –  Top Stock run offs

65 SPRING NATIONALS

A number of the stockers were DQ’d after tear down. The new A990 Hemi cars were outed for illegal ballast and the popular Tony Pizzi was booted for illegal mufflers.

Ray Christian had a bad meet at Bristol  – losing to Mike Schmitt in the AA/SA final…by the smallest of margins – come the TopStock final,Christian had a bye run….but turned off to the return road b4 the traps! Bad luck for a guy who was running 3/10ths faster than anyone in class.

INDY NATIONALS

65 WORLD FINALS JR STOCK

RESULTS

Top Stock eliminator saw some odd results. Why?  Sandbagging….NHRA refused to change their eliminator handicap system…so too many brake lights were seen at the top end of the track as drivers desperately avoided breaking out over existing records –  this favoured less temperamental more consistent cars –  but was not always a sign of who was making HP!

CAR AND DRIVER NOTES – 

FACTORING – 1965 was the first year that NHRA directly intervened and changed the HP ratings quoted by the factories.

The  hot Super/Stock engines had started to make a mockery of the factory HP ratings, so NHRA took to ‘re-factoring’ the output of certain motors they thought were too dominant.

  • The 64 Dodge/Plymouth A864 Race Hemi 426cui/425hp – Re-factored in 65 to 500hp.
  • 65 Dodge/Plymouth A990 Race Hemi 426cui/425hp. – Re-factored to 500hp.
  • The 64 Ford 427cui/425hp FE Hi Riser  was re-factored to 500hp – The T-Bolt was gone anyway, along with the 64  alloy nose Hemi 2 door sedan, under the 8lb rule

NOTE – The Ford 427 SOHC was not adjusted as it competed only in FX and that used a different formula, HP per cui. It would have competed in the fastest FX class regardless of factoring.

THE 8lb RULE

Contrary to popular belief,  the use of fibreglass and aluminium was NOT banned for 1965. However, from 65-68 NHRA adjusted the Weight/Cubic inch rule from 7.5lbs/cid for Stock cars to Super Stock class cars under 8 lbs per CID (Not to be confused with lb/hp factoring).

The following cars were booted from Super Stock class –

  • 64 427/425hp 8V (Cold air) Fairlane Thunderbolt (500hp) – 8lb rule 3203/427= 7.50 lbs
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Race Hemi (Cold air) all 2dr sed Plymouth A864 Race Hemi – 8lb rule 3234/426=7.59lbs
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Race Hemi (Cold air) Steel 2dr Plym Belv Htop  8lb rule 3247/426 = 7.62
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Race Hemi (Cold air) Alloy 2dr Dodge 330 sed 8lb rule 3247/426 = 7.62
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Race Hemi (Cold air) Steel 2dr Dodge 440 Htop  8lb rule 3259/426 = 7.65

 

1965 STOCK RACING COMBINATIONS

S/S

0-6.99 hp/lbs

  • 65 426/425hp 8V A990 Race Hemi Plymouth/Dodge 2dr sed. (500HP) 6.82 – 3410

AA/S – 7.0-8.69

  • 64 427/425hp 8V Hi riser Galaxie 500 ‘Lightweight’ (Cold air) (500hp) 7.50 – 3749
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed. (Cold air)- 7.54 – 3204
  • 62 413/420hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plymouth Savoy – 7.58. – 3184
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed (Cold air)- 7.60 – 3230
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Plym Savoy sed (Cold air) – 7.61 – 3234
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Plym Belv sedans (Cold air)- 7.64 – 3230
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Plym Belv Htop  (Cold air) – 7.64 – 3247
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Dodge 330 sed (Cold air) – 7.64 – 3247
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge 2dr Dodge 440 Htop  (Cold air)- 7.67 – 3259
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed  (Cold air)- 7.73 – 3207
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford Galaxie Custom 2dr sedan (460hp) – 7.74- 3560
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Alloy Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed (Cold air)- 7.79 – 3232
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed – 7.79 – 3310
  • 62 413/420hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge Dart – 7.80 – 3276
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plymouth Savoy 2dr sedan- 7.84 – 3333
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sedan- 7.90 –  3357
  • 63 427/430hp 8V Chevrolet Impala LW Z11 – 7.90 (Not legal  build#s – info only) -3397
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford Galaxie 2dr H/top  (460hp) – 7.91- 3638
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed (Cold air) – 7.99 – 3396
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plym Belv 2dr Htop (Cold air) – 8.01 – 3404
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plym Savoy 2dr sed – 8.03 – 3332
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed – 8.07 – 3349
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed- 8.09 – 3357
  • 64 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 440 2dr Htop – 8.11- 3259
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford LTD 2dr H/top (460hp)-  8.15- 3749
  • 66 327/350hp 4V Nova L79 Hardtop – 8.22 –  2877
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford Galaxie  XL 2dr h/top (460hp)-  8.23 – 3786
  • 64 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 2dr sed – 8.27 – 3432
  • 64 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plym Belv 2dr sed – 8.30 – 3445
  • 64 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 440 2dr Htop – 8.31 – 3448
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford LTD 4dr H/top (460hp) – 8.35 – 3841
  • 65 427/425hp 8V Lo riser Ford Custom 2dr sedan – 8.38 – 3561
  • 65 427/425hp 8V med riser Ford Custom 2dr sedan (465hp) – 8.38 – 3897
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plymouth Belv Wagon 6p – 8.49 – 3608
  • 63 426/425hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 Wagon 6p – 8.51 3574
  • 65 427/425hp 8V Lo riser Ford Galaxie  2h/top – 8.56 3638

A/S – 8.70-9.49

  • 63 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plymouth Belv Wagon 6p – 8.70 – 3610
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 Wagon 6p – 8.71 – 3754
  • 65 327/350 4V Chevelle 300 2dr sed. stick – 8.73 – 3056
  • 62 413/410hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Dodge 330 Wagon 9p – 8.75 – 3587
  • 62 409/409 8V Chev Biscayne 2dr sedan – 8.79 – 3595
  • 62 409/409hp 8V Chev Belair 2dr bubbletop – 8.81 – 3603
  • 65 427/425hp 8V Lo riser Gal LTD 2ht – 8.82 3748
  • 63 426/415hp 8V Steel Maxwedge Plymouth Belv Wagon 9p – 8.85 – 3672
  • 65 396/375 4V Z16 Chevy Malibu stick – 8.93- 3350
  • 62 421/405hp 8V Pontiac Catalina Super Duty LW – 8.94 – 3665
  • 63 427/425hp 8V lo riser Galaxie 2ht – 9.02 – 3833
  • 63 427/425hp 8V Ford Custom 2d sedan – 9.03 – 3837
  • 65 427/425hp 8V Lo riser LTD 4h/top – 9.04 – 3842
  • 62 406/405hp 3x2V Ford Galaxie 2dr sedan- 9.07 –  3673
  • 65 409/409hp 4V Chevrolet Biscayne – 9.14- 3740
  • 65 409/400hp 4V L31 Chevrolet Biscayne – 9.35 – 3740
  • 64 427/425hp 8V lo riser Gal Custom 2dr sed -9.41 -3999
  • 64 427/425hp 8V lo riser Custom 500 2dr sed 9.44- 4016

B/S – 9.5-10.59

  • 64 427/425hp 8V lo riser Galaxie 500 2dr sed – 9.50- 4038
  • 63 406/405hp 3x2V Galaxie – 9.51 – 3851
  • 63 427/410hp 4V lo riser Galaxie – 9.52 – 3903
  • 64 427/425hp 8V lo riser Galaxie 500 H/Top – 9.52 – 4046
  • 62 383/343hp 8V in line Plym Belvedere – 9.54 – 3272
  • 64 427/425hp 8V  lo riser Galaxie 500 XL 2dr H/top – 9.61- 4084
  • 65 389/360HP 4V Pontiac LeMans GTO 2dr Coupe – 9.63 – 3467
  • 62 383/343hp  8V in line Dodge Polara 2dr sed – 9.66 – 3087
  • 64 427/410 4V lo riser Gal Custom 2dr sed – 9.75-3999
  • 64 427/410 4V lo riser Gal Custom 500 2dr sed- 9.79 – 4016
  • 65 400/345hp 4V Oldsmobile 442 2dr coupe – 9.84 – 3395
  • 64 427/410 4V lo riser Galaxie 500 2dr H/top – 9.87 – 4046
  • 62 361/ 305hp 4V Fury/Belv/Savoy/Dart/330/440 – 10.35 – 3156

C/S – 10.6-11.29

  • 62 389/363hp 3x2V Pontiac Catalina – 10.60 – 3847
  • 65 289/271hp 4V HiPo Mustang – 10.60 – 2872
  • 65 289/271hp Mercury Comet 2dr sed – 10.62 – 2878
  • 65 383/330hp 4V Plym Satellite 2dr sed – 10.62 – 3504
  • 62 361/305hp 4V Plymouth Fury 2dr H/top  – 10.71 – 3267
  • 61 283/270hp 8V Corvette – 10.76 – 2905

DISQUALIFICATIONS

Leroy Stutzman – DQ’d  after winning A/SA at the Winters.

Darrell Droke – DQ’d on technicalities after winning B/FX at the Springnats.  Under new rules for 65,  Fred Cutler should have been recorded as the winner, however he was already on the road. 

CARS

FORD / MERCURY – For 1965, Ford all but abandoned the idea of competing against the A990 Race Hemi cars and winning Super Stock.  Instead, the Ford focused its efforts using the 427 SOHC, through the ‘Drag Council’ (Factory sponsored race drivers) in the  FX class.

Stock – Galaxie – There is a question over who drove the 796 car at the Springnats AA/S final.  Entry list confirms Mike Schmitt driving ‘740’ and Doug Butler driving ‘796’.   What we DO know is the winning Springnats AA/S car was #796.

Bobby Spears believed it was Mike Schmitt – however many sources say it was Doug Butler.  There are no known pics of the ‘740’ 65 Galaxy….however Schmitt has been photographed with the 796 car.  

Schmitt was unhappy with the performance of his 65 AA/S Galaxy…. He took both cars to the Springnats…..and took Top Stock Eliminator in his 64 AA/S car. 

Bobby Spears (AA/S) Galaxie gets the handicap start over Arlen Vanke’s S/S Plymouth.

 Bobby Spears on the AA/S Winternats “Schmitt won on a solo in his 65 Galaxy due to me losing a FL1-A oil filter on my semi run and was not able to get back in line to race him for the trophy.  I watched him as I was almost back on the return road,N.H.R.A. said they thought I blew my engine due to all the smoke getting on my headers.His best run if I remember was about 13.00 or maybe just in the 12’s and I was running almost in the 11’s that day.  Sad but that is racing as we all say. “

A/FX Mustang – Ford shoe-horned their massive 427 SOHC ‘Cammer’ motor into 7 Mustangs that were rebuilt with light weight frames and many fiberglass panels. The 427 Hi Riser was used when supplies of the SOHC ran short. 

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A close up study of the A/FX winning SOHC Mustang.  Including cars like this with  these levels of modification caused serious migraines for the  NHRA.

B/FX & C/FX –(Courtesy Hot Rod Magazine) – “Ford’s B car(s) were based on the Fairlane and Galaxy, and could be equipped with either the 427 high-riser wedge with dual-fours or the new SOHC engine with Webers”.

Darrel Droke’s 427 Hi Riser powered 65 B/FX Fairlane

FX – Mercury – Entered 427 Comets and also a powerful little 289 Comet package in B/FX. 

Doug Nash’s B/FX 289 Cobra quad weber carb Mercury Cyclone

Jerry Harvey’s 427 Galaxie won B/FX at Pomona and Bristol. He ran the 427FE at Pomona and the 427 SOHC at Bristol.

C/FX – Galaxie – The new Ford C/FX combination would also use the Galaxie/289 Cobra combo. The base was the 1965 Galaxie 500 hardtop that had a vented fiberglass hood with a Thunderbolt-like teardrop bulge (3,550 pounds base weight minus 23 for the hood)

CHRYSLER

A990 RACE HEMI – Both the Dodge and  Plymouth factory lightweight race ‘specials’ used acid dipped steel;  these cars forced Ford into developing the 427 SOHC, a completely new race motor (which was subsequently disallowed from the S/S class).

The Race Hemi A990 was another step beyond the 64 A864 Race Hemis, which had already proved to be the cars to beat in late 64.    Alloy heads, magnesium intake, dual Holley carbs …..the 65 A990 Race Hemis dominated S/S and SS/A until mid 1968. They also convinced the bean counters in Detroit to commercially release the 426 ‘Street Hemi’ motor. A far milder combo, the ‘street Hemi’ was released in 1966.

Bill ‘Grumpy’ ‘Jiggs’ Jenkins discusses future possibilities….

C/FX – The lightened 273 small block Plymouth was nothing really radical. Ultimately, we put Weber carbs on it, using a hand-fabricated intake manifold built by a friend of mine named Joe Tribus, who was really goodDave Koffel, owner of Koffel’s Place in Huron, Ohio.

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Dave Koffel’s US Nats C/FX winning Plymouth. Ford did not show up.

Dave Koffel parked up.

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Jenkins putting the hole shot on Dick Housey for one of his two NHRA Superstock eliminations National titles in the 60’s.

CHEVROLET/ PONTIAC – By 65 , Chevelles appeared in limited numbers in A/S, B/S and C/S Stock classes..,as did Pontiac GTOs.  However neither brand had anything from the factory that could run in S/S or AA/S.  Both marques featured in Match Bash…the light Chevelle and Nova bodies suited this highly  modified class, however the old Z11 427cui engines and the new Pontiac 421 HO used in the GTOs were down on power compared to the Race Hemis and 427 SOHCs. 

Tom Sturm and his FX 64 Chevy Malibu. In 65 he ran a 396 in this car that was painstakingly blueprinted.

Don Gay joined the ‘big boys’ club in 65….competing his AWB 64 GTO in the Match Bash class.

The Z16 Chevelle at 327cui/327hp was a dangerous customer at the top of A/Stock – at 3056lbs.

Below is an important list for the ‘bench racer’ to digest…..

– Btwn 65-67, NHRA had a rule banning cars under 8.0lbs per CID (Not to be confused with lb/hp factoring) from S/S.  Its purpose  was to maintain some ‘stock’ integrity.

The following cars were booted from S/S-

64 426/425hp LW Plymouth A864 Race Hemi – (500hp)- 3234/426=7.59lbs

64 427/425hp Fairlane Thunderbolt (500hp) – 3203/427= 7.50 lbs

– The Ford SOHC came on the scene to counter the Race Hemi – NHRA declared it not legal for S/S as it was not put in enough cars. It was available as an over the counter option – but no dice….such were the NHRA’s whims.

The 426 A990 cross ram Race Hemi was deemed legal for S/S because more than 50 lightweight race cars  were built by both the Plymouth and Dodge companies. (Hemi Order code A990).

– Mopar’s 4 (or 6) 2% altered wheel base cars and the 2% AWB 427 SOHC Mustang and Cyclones were deemed  legal for FX – The more extreme 16” AWB Mopars were not.

– The 16” AWB Mopars had to run the match racing circuit  and the NHRA match bash circuit. Later joined by other AWB cars.

The vast difference in acceptable specification btwn AHRA, Match racing and NHRA has resulted in very different recollections of ‘who was fastest’….and will never be resolved.  What we do have are the results of the ‘most street legal’ competition…which was NHRA.

Ford dominated FX and AA/S and Mopar ruled the S/S class.  Junior Stock and Top Stock eliminations – the spoils were shared amongst all brands.

Bill Jenkins accepts the WinterNats Top Stock trophy

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Bud Schellenberger and Bob Coble fought out the 1965 US Nats Top Stock title in 64 lightweight AA/S Hi Riser Galaxies.  The 64 Galaxies were highly consistent runners, the large rear trunk over-hang providing significant traction benefits. They were also quicker than the medium riser 65 cars due to the hi-riser dual quad intake.

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Things happened fast in 65 – there were some big developments  from the factory race teams and  the FX class spawned some radical ideas…some accepted by the NHRA…..and some not.

MEETS

1965 saw the NHRA introduce two new National meets, the Spring Nationals in Bristol, Tennessee and the World Finals in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

The World Finals was intended to crown the ‘World Champ’…..instead of a points accrual system and trophy….points would qualify for entry…and drivers raced for the Class championship.

WINTERNATIONALS – Pomona, CA – February 7 – The 1965 Winternationals were run under duress by the NHRA. They had lost two days of qualifying and class eliminations due to weather and the sanctioning body was essentially forced to run a race with hundreds and hundreds of entries in a single day, over a 10 hour period. Also, there was no “run on Monday” option…these guys were ‘semi-pro’ drivers.

So no S/S or S/SA class ‘finals’…fastest time got the trophy.

The track on the Friday of the Pomona Winter Nats…..Sunny California!

An all time Chevy hero – Bill Jenkins 1st Nationals title as a driver was in a Plymouth. He was highly competitive in Chrysler product –   both in engineering and driving. However Chrysler withdrew support and he became just as competitive as a ‘privateer’ – he was discreetly supported by Chevrolet and established an enormously successful race engine building business and Pro Stock career.

SPRING NATIONALS – Bristol, TN – June 6 – The first of the ‘new meets’ was at the newly built Bristol Speedway, situated in a valley, the track rapidly earned the nickname ‘Thunder Valley’ as the noise from the cars sounded like rolling thunder.  

We also saw ‘Match Bash’ make its debut at this meet.

The iconic, modernist ‘block’ control tower at Bristol….an architectural icon now demolished due to sheer corporate stupidity. Ken Holwick’s ‘Hemi a Go Go’ WO1 Dodge in foreground.

Unloading cars from the trailers near the creek bank. (Photo by Dick Day)

NATIONALS – Indianapolis, IN – September 6 – A rain interruption forced a tight schedule, however Top Stock classes and Stock were not effected. 

Pic c/- Tom Kasch

Don Grotheer hitched up.

Pic courtesy Thomas Schellenberger

WORLD FINALS – Tulsa, OK –  October 31  From 1960-64, the class ‘world champion’ was decided by points accumulation.   In 1965, Racers qualified to compete at the World Finals event based on points accrued at six events in each of NHRA’s divisions, with each division’s top two finishers allowed to attend the event. Run offs at this event decided the World Champ.  This meet was held at the originally-named SouthWest Raceway, later to become the Tulsa International Raceway, Oklahoma.

The instantly recognizable Tulsa Race tower.

Texan Joe Smith – 1st ever World S/S Champ under the new ‘runoff’ system.

CLASS AND ELIMINATIONS CHANGES

FX- The Winters saw the last FX ‘Factory Stock Eliminator’.   By the Springnats, FX cars were allowed to compete with S/S, S/SA for Top Stock. Also, AA/S and AA/SA cars were moved into the Top Stock eliminations. B/FX and C/FX were relegated to the Junior Stock Elimination run offs.  

RULES

DISQUALIFICATIONS – At Indy, it was decided that the runner up would be awarded the trophy if the class winner was DQ’d.  Unfortunately, many drivers – like Fred Cutler- did not ‘hang around’ and missed out on their class win certification. 

Fred Cutler and his rare one of one 64 Dodge wagon. This time NHRA got it right requiring the car run FX. The same rules did not apply in the following years to the Elliot 427 Comet wagon and Charbonneau’s 427 Ford.

BUILD RULES

Minimum build #s for S/S was 100, as per 1964.

In a way, Ford had its cake and got to eat it – NHRA had created  the new AA/S class in late 64 for the 64 lightweight Galaxies – The trade off was AA/S would run off for Top Stock….not Jr Stock.

 

FUNNY CARS vs FX – The difference? 

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Hardly your average Mustang engine bay!   Ford shoe horned the 427 SOHC in the 65 Mustang by removing the shock towers and fitting leaf springs …among other mods.This picture demonstrates how ‘non stock’ FX cars had become- and how difficult any attempt to make the SOHC a ‘factory car’ option would have been.

FX –  Chrysler opened a door in S/S that might better have been left closed – the 2% exercise withered under the weight trailered by the lighter more powerful SOHC Mustangs. The 2% cars were soon changed to full AWB.

Ford went ahead and dominated ‘legal’ FX with its lightweight SOHC Mustangs  and Comets – Bill Lawton piloting his 65 Mustang to a Winternational A/FX class and Factory Stock (FX)  Eliminations wins ……..Ritchie winning A/FX at the Nats …but these cars and the AWB Mopars had no VIN, no real interior and so the writing was on the wall as far as NHRA retaining them in ‘stock’ class racing.

Ford also targeted the lower FX classes with multi carburetor small blocks and pretty much ruled the roost but for Phil Koffel’s small block Plymouth at Indy.

The rivalry between the Dodge-Plymouth teams and the Ford-Mercury camp was extremely intense and Chrysler made major moves for 1965 by luring Sox & Martin from Mercury to Plymouth.

Lawton (SOHC Mustang) vs Grove (2% AWB Plymouth) – Grove missed a shift in this A/FX Semi run off giving Lawton a solo run for the final.

Experienced Chevy racers like Malcolm Durham, Tom Sturm and Dick Harrell flew the Chevy flag in Chevelles and Novas – running the 427cui Z11 , the Z16 327/350hp and new for 64 396. These cars ran radical AWB in match races across the country.

EXTREME WHEELBASES! – Chryslers top drivers continued to shift wheelbases…..Dick Landy was the first to significantly move the rear axle forward. 

Dick Landy’s radically altered Dodge ran from mid 64 through to Feb 65…a full year before the Logghe chassis Cyclones. It is rightly considered to be the 1st ‘funny car’.

The Mopar 16” AWB cars were declared illegal for NHRA competition, but their nine-second performances easily outclassed the high 10-second potential of the NHRA-legal AFX entries (the FX Fords, Comets and 2% Mopars).  The SOHC FoMoCo FX cars ran high 10s (around 130mph) usually slightly quicker (2/100ths on average) than the older  200lb heavier Mopars.  …The 16% NA AWB Mopars low 10s, dipping into the 9s…(134 mph)….later using nitro methane and fuel injection.

NEW CLASS – MATCH BASH!  – So, the Match Bash class was devised to accommodate the 16” Altered Wheel Base (AWB) Mopars.  At the SpringNats, we saw Strickler, Faubel and Harrop in Dodges, and Lee Smith, Sox and Ekstrand in Plymouths. 

Ford subsequently disallowed their cars from competing against the new Mopar AWB  “Funny Cars” in NHRA competition…so the “16 inch” AWB Mopars ended up running 130+ mph against themselves – THIS was the genesis of the Funny car class.

Eventually Ford and Chrysler came to an agreement in the % of wheel base shift and minimum weight classes for these ‘Match Race’ cars for the 1966 season.

It wasn’t long until hardened match racers like Arnie Beswick and Don Gay joined the AWB show. 

Two ‘Match Bash’ full AWB Mopars. The radical wheel positioning can be clearly seen. These cars were banned from FX…but NHRA couldn’t ignore the fans and created ‘Match Bash’.  Ford soon followed…and private Chevy and Pontiac entries like Arnie Beswick, Dick Harrell and Tom Sturm were in there swinging.

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INDY – Shellenberger getting the hole shot on Grotheer on the way to winning Stock Eliminator.  Earlier, Grotheer had beaten Shellenberger for the AA/S class win.

Editors note. – SOME RACE CARS NEVER DIE! – 

Finding pictures of 55 year old race cars is not always easy- Social Media has made things a bit quicker…but mostly it’s luck contacting the right person.

In my search for pictures of Leroy Stutzman and Rich Lorenze, I happened across a friend of Lorenze’s son, Tony.

Rich has passed, but one message and Tony had supplied pictures of both his father’s Stockers – his 63 Gal that ran as runner up in 65 in A/Stock – and his 66 lightweight Fairlane – both of which is still in Tony’s possession!

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Jack Chrisman’s FX Comet was a big drawcard in 65.

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Doug Kahl – 65 World Finals Junior Stock champ.

Jenkins on his way to Top Stock at the Winternationals against a ‘cousin’ WO1 A990 Race Hemi Dodge (Far lane) . 1965 would be his first Top Stock trophy between 61 and 70, his second came in 1967 in a Camaro.